I've no good way to explain it, why I've returned to posting occasionally over at Dr. Phil dot com -- except that there are some people who also post there about whom I cannot seem to stop caring.
Man, that sounds stilted. There are some people there I can't seem to stop caring about.
But I am hated, because I don't disguise my disgust for Phil McGraw and his Brand. Because I get angry -- really, really angry -- when the "moderators" censor every word, pull posts seemingly at random, have a first trimester barely-there sense of humor, and especially when they underwrite those people whose mental health status is circling the drain. They encourage people who are frankly delusional and paranoid, instead of intervening or supplying the "best in the world" type of assistance that only a Phil McGraw could.
Anywho... (Did you know that I've recently been introduced to a woman whose real name is Cindy Lou Who? I kid you not!) Anywho... several other posters have been miffed by the censorship and have hesitantly spoken up about it. Yes, I AM criticizing the hesitancy of their "J'accuse..." -- In case you haven't noticed, I'm lately a huge fan of "manning up" and clanging your brass balls, whether you have to purchase them or whether they're organically all yours. I've had it with temerity.
Temerity kills people.
Go ahead, ask me how I know. I dare ya.
Oops. I am transferring the anger that fuels my writing over yonder onto my Gentle Readers here, safe within the daub-and-wattle of Marlinspike Hall (it's mostly stone masonry, actually), here in the Western regions of the Lone Alp, all wrapped up in the phenomenal Tête de Hergé. Here, where we exhale evil humours out of our nares and inhale the sweet end products of the algae in The Moat. It is, in fact, the prevalence of our choleric, melancholic, sanguine, and phlegmatic contributions that form a protective ring of basic rarefied sputum around The Manor. We're still working on the algae.
The four temperaments (Clockwise from top right: choleric; melancholic; sanguine; phlegmatic). |
There is probably some rule, maybe even some law, some Terms of Usage bit of blather that should prevent me from republishing the stuff below. "Ha!" I say. "Ha!" I take the risk for one reason, and one reason alone. One of the moderaters deigned to respond to my moaning, groaning post... and tried to use MOLIERE against moi! Oh, the joy in MoiLand!
Anyway, this is how twitty, twittified, and ridiculous things are in Phil Territory. Oh, and would one of you be so kind as to be in charge of collecting money for bail? Thankyouverymuch. Please note, Lawyers of Doctor Feel, that I have protected all identities but my own. Also, La Bonne et Belle Bianca Castafiore and her Lover Sven, along with Sven's quite costaud young studly son, Cabana Boy -- they all know where you live. Yeah, that's right...
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Replied By: X on Oct 5, 2012, 9:53PM
Wow, big surprise, another post disappears.. If you cant post about your feelings, about depression then why have a board on depression????
If the mods feel that somewhere in the post there may be inappropiate things, take it out, I am sure you can edit, but why remove the whole entire post??? And if the post is erased then we should be offered the courtesy of an email (because you have everyones in their profile) explaining why it was inappropriate and erased.
Mary:: Made a post earlier this evening, expressed my sorrow at the loss of your neighbor but big surprise, it disappeared...
If the mods feel that somewhere in the post there may be inappropiate things, take it out, I am sure you can edit, but why remove the whole entire post??? And if the post is erased then we should be offered the courtesy of an email (because you have everyones in their profile) explaining why it was inappropriate and erased.
Mary:: Made a post earlier this evening, expressed my sorrow at the loss of your neighbor but big surprise, it disappeared...
Replied By: Z on Oct 5, 2012, 11:23PM
Posts are disappearing. Is there a glitch in the system or something? While it's understandable that some posts may need to be deleted it is VERY upsetting for some. It makes it very hard to support someone when the posts they write gets deleted.Is it possibly because our board is being featured?
I do get the fact that you want people to stay on topic but when we take the time to type posts only to come back here to find them missing it actually CAUSES depression because it's like we are being told in OUR safe place that what we think is NOT important. Please put yourselves in our place? Please put yourselves in the new people's place? How would you feel if you came here seeking support only to find your post was deleted? How can I help others when I can't see their posts? Depressed people usually cannot stay on one topic at a time. Depressed people give up easily (sad but true). Perhaps if at all possible should you feel the need to delete a post you could reply to the post first to give the poster a chance to edit it before you do? Otherwise we could lose even more members or potential members.You never know what someone who is depressed might do. Er DON'T worry I'm NOT talking about me! I'm just curious because I've seen a couple of posts disappear that were not offensive at all.
I do get the fact that you want people to stay on topic but when we take the time to type posts only to come back here to find them missing it actually CAUSES depression because it's like we are being told in OUR safe place that what we think is NOT important. Please put yourselves in our place? Please put yourselves in the new people's place? How would you feel if you came here seeking support only to find your post was deleted? How can I help others when I can't see their posts? Depressed people usually cannot stay on one topic at a time. Depressed people give up easily (sad but true). Perhaps if at all possible should you feel the need to delete a post you could reply to the post first to give the poster a chance to edit it before you do? Otherwise we could lose even more members or potential members.You never know what someone who is depressed might do. Er DON'T worry I'm NOT talking about me! I'm just curious because I've seen a couple of posts disappear that were not offensive at all.
Replied By: profderien on Oct 6, 2012, 7:59AM - In reply to Z
i join (once again) voices with mary and joyce -- moderation seems almost like a game, a catch-as-catch-can kind of endeavor.
on the one hand, there is the impression that the moderators are overwhelmed with work. i imagine they are, since it has been decided that every word, every inference, every emotion, every vent needs to be vetted by... whomever these moderators are. so occasionally, we write something, it appears, then disappears, we bark and complain, and then, "poof" -- it reappears. because the mods are so weighed down with the work of censorship.
on the other hand, there is what i *know*. when i am critical, i don't get published. when i am too direct, i don't get published. should i suggest that the mods/drphil are coddling some mentally ill people who need help instead of coddling? shazaam! my posts are in the outer atmosphere. should i simper, kiss butt, write a poem, light a candle? no problem!
but this is a place for people with problems. so stop censoring the problems, they're real! it is kind of funny, since you have, in the past, let people go on and on for months, even years, scamming other support group participants with sob stories that the moderators apparently ate up with relish.. i would refer you to a post about that on the old chronic pain board, but that board has been eliminated. (if people would just buy all of frank lawlis' books, get tested for heavy metals, there would be no chronic pain, right?)
the users can tell who is real and who is not, and eventually can work it out amongst themselves -- better than can the moderators? why? because we have an investment. these are our stories here, this is our life splayed out on the screen. dr. phil is not the one taking any risks, we are.
so... yeah, the mods are busy with the busy work of vetting every written word -- which at the very least is a waste of their talents. and yeah... they are engaged in senseless censorship.
i am posting this at 10:59 am, my time. let's see how long before it's pulled.
"the truth? you can't handle the truth..."
on the one hand, there is the impression that the moderators are overwhelmed with work. i imagine they are, since it has been decided that every word, every inference, every emotion, every vent needs to be vetted by... whomever these moderators are. so occasionally, we write something, it appears, then disappears, we bark and complain, and then, "poof" -- it reappears. because the mods are so weighed down with the work of censorship.
on the other hand, there is what i *know*. when i am critical, i don't get published. when i am too direct, i don't get published. should i suggest that the mods/drphil are coddling some mentally ill people who need help instead of coddling? shazaam! my posts are in the outer atmosphere. should i simper, kiss butt, write a poem, light a candle? no problem!
but this is a place for people with problems. so stop censoring the problems, they're real! it is kind of funny, since you have, in the past, let people go on and on for months, even years, scamming other support group participants with sob stories that the moderators apparently ate up with relish.. i would refer you to a post about that on the old chronic pain board, but that board has been eliminated. (if people would just buy all of frank lawlis' books, get tested for heavy metals, there would be no chronic pain, right?)
the users can tell who is real and who is not, and eventually can work it out amongst themselves -- better than can the moderators? why? because we have an investment. these are our stories here, this is our life splayed out on the screen. dr. phil is not the one taking any risks, we are.
so... yeah, the mods are busy with the busy work of vetting every written word -- which at the very least is a waste of their talents. and yeah... they are engaged in senseless censorship.
i am posting this at 10:59 am, my time. let's see how long before it's pulled.
"the truth? you can't handle the truth..."
Replied By: Y on Oct 6, 2012, 8:12AM - In reply to profderien
Emoting anger and rage might "feel good" in the short term, however, developing more constructive tools and skill sets might be more helpful in navigating life.
In the 17th Century, Moliere advocated the philosophy of moderation which is as pertinent today as then.
There is a marvelous place for anger and rage...it is called Therapy.
In the 17th Century, Moliere advocated the philosophy of moderation which is as pertinent today as then.
There is a marvelous place for anger and rage...it is called Therapy.
Replied By: profderien on Oct 6, 2012, 8:43AM - In reply to Y
it speaks! thank you, moderator.
emoting, emoting..what possible role could that have on this site, do ya think? have you noticed the leitmotif running through most of your adherents' lives -- that of not having enough money to buy the tools you so blithely suggest? might that not explain the instense begging that breaks out like smallpox from time to time? for make-overs, for money to get to hospitals, money to keep the internet available for access to helpful sites like... this one.
"constructive tools and skills" -- as far as i can see, the ones that you are advocating fall under the rubric of 'sublimation.' or is dr. phil wishing us all to be subsumed by some skinnerian device, and our rewards and disincentives come through whether or not the moderators will publish our over the top emoting or our oppressed/suppressed pollyanna acts?
i gotta give you the brass balls award, male or female, for mentioning molière to me. give Le Médecin malgré lui a read. and no, molière was not exactly an advocate for moderation... or at least, he was about as much as was rabelais.
i've had therapy. it was great. they tell me i don't need any more. but if you don't want me to emote anger and rage, kindly delineate what it is okay to emote. i mean, heck, if i suppress that, won't that morph into depression and grief...?
in reply to moderator's comment:
"Emoting anger and rage might "feel good" in the short term, however, developing more constructive tools and skill sets might be more helpful in navigating life.
In the 17th Century, Moliere advocated the philosophy of moderation which is as pertinent today as then.
There is a marvelous place for anger and rage...it is called Therapy."
emoting, emoting..what possible role could that have on this site, do ya think? have you noticed the leitmotif running through most of your adherents' lives -- that of not having enough money to buy the tools you so blithely suggest? might that not explain the instense begging that breaks out like smallpox from time to time? for make-overs, for money to get to hospitals, money to keep the internet available for access to helpful sites like... this one.
"constructive tools and skills" -- as far as i can see, the ones that you are advocating fall under the rubric of 'sublimation.' or is dr. phil wishing us all to be subsumed by some skinnerian device, and our rewards and disincentives come through whether or not the moderators will publish our over the top emoting or our oppressed/suppressed pollyanna acts?
i gotta give you the brass balls award, male or female, for mentioning molière to me. give Le Médecin malgré lui a read. and no, molière was not exactly an advocate for moderation... or at least, he was about as much as was rabelais.
i've had therapy. it was great. they tell me i don't need any more. but if you don't want me to emote anger and rage, kindly delineate what it is okay to emote. i mean, heck, if i suppress that, won't that morph into depression and grief...?
in reply to moderator's comment:
"Emoting anger and rage might "feel good" in the short term, however, developing more constructive tools and skill sets might be more helpful in navigating life.
In the 17th Century, Moliere advocated the philosophy of moderation which is as pertinent today as then.
There is a marvelous place for anger and rage...it is called Therapy."
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Actually, hmmmm. I've no idea if the person to whom I was responding was a moderator or not. Oh, well, I got to emote all over the page (it'll be hours of cleaning for some poor crew working at or below minimum wage....).
Speaking of which, I'd best at least put our small apartment here in the East Wing in some sort of order before I get hauled off to debtor's prison for "stealing from DrPhil.com's website."
It's been fun... Try to carry on without me. Go Joey! Go Hannah! Go Kate! Go Ashley! Oh, dear God, I was not cut out for incarceration. I'm much too pretty.
Speaking of which, I'd best at least put our small apartment here in the East Wing in some sort of order before I get hauled off to debtor's prison for "stealing from DrPhil.com's website."
It's been fun... Try to carry on without me. Go Joey! Go Hannah! Go Kate! Go Ashley! Oh, dear God, I was not cut out for incarceration. I'm much too pretty.
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